Comments on: The Pledge of Allegiance and the Ninth U.S Circuit Court

By: mike_brewer

mike_brewer — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:07:31 +0000

I have never in my life witnessed anyone being “forced” to use the word God. Only a conscience can violate a conscience. So this is a solipsistic argument. And all solipsistic arguments are basically a form of reverse bigotry.

By: leftfield

leftfield — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:50:31 +0000

Is this what the right is talking about when they scream about “judicial activism” and “legislating from the bench”, or is that only when the decision doesn’t go their way?

By: cashgreen

cashgreen — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:10:55 +0000

Specious arguments are easily identified. Simply by observing who the ultimate benefit goes to reveals the motive. Either the argument is for the self or for others. Those that try to appear to argue for the other while being the one who benefits makes me sad.

By: tiponeill

tiponeill — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:15:39 +0000

I have news for you – Jesus didn’t celebrate putting his name in the Pledge of Allegiance either, forcing non-believers to violate their conscience or be unpatriotic.
I realize that this bigotry isn’t something either veterans or Catholics understand, but it is unpleasant to the rest of us every time we are subjected to it.

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By: mike_brewer

mike_brewer — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:51:45 +0000

Didn’t say the Knights were liberal. Of course they are not. I said God is liberal… which was sort of satirical. The word liberal is from the Latin root “liberare” meaning to free oneself of oppressive forces. That would be God’s job. And his spokesman, Jesus did not care much for politics either.

By: Ferraribubba

Ferraribubba — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:19:09 +0000

Hey Tipster: Isn’t that the City Flag of San Francisco that you’re using these days? I hope that you got permission from Gavin Newsom.
Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

By: leftfield

leftfield — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:55:42 +0000

Can’t seem to post here, Mike. There is one short pasted paragraph in my reply; perhaps that is why.

By: leftfield

leftfield — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:38:32 +0000

This is a test post.

By: tiponeill

tiponeill — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:37:11 +0000

P.S. – Last time I heard from the Knights of Columbus they were contributing $50,000 to take away the rights of gays to marry in Maine.
Their God isn’t that liberal.

By: tiponeill

tiponeill — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:59:39 +0000

It will be difficult to vilify the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court for being too liberal.
Actually they reversed their previous decision as a result of Bush appointing a new judge.
God is pretty liberal in the care and love for the people under that Flag.

You have to be joking – the Knights of Columbus liberal ?
The court decided that “god” wasn’t “religion” – good politics, bad law.
Certainly another loss for religious freedom, but then in a country where the Congress has to get its laws vetted by the Conference of Catholic Bishops, it is no surprise.

But then the last time I looked, God is pretty liberal in the care and love for the people under that Flag.